1 00:00:00,572 --> 00:00:03,155 (gentle music) 2 00:00:05,866 --> 00:00:09,414 - Hey, I'm Thomas Zurbuchen, also known as Dr. Z. 3 00:00:09,414 --> 00:00:13,360 - And I'm Ellen Stofan, also known as Dr. E, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,190 and welcome to another episode of E.Z. Science. 5 00:00:17,190 --> 00:00:19,630 - And I'm so glad to be here with you 6 00:00:19,630 --> 00:00:22,454 right next to the headquarters building at NASA, 7 00:00:22,454 --> 00:00:25,690 which just in time, for Women's History Month, 8 00:00:25,690 --> 00:00:30,200 has a new name, Mary W. Jackson Headquarters. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,840 And I'm just so excited to have that name on it. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,330 What do you know about Mary Jackson? 11 00:00:34,330 --> 00:00:35,860 - Well, I learned about Mary Jackson 12 00:00:35,860 --> 00:00:37,430 from reading the book, Hidden Figures, 13 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:38,850 and then of course seeing the movie. 14 00:00:38,850 --> 00:00:40,975 And she's just this amazing woman 15 00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:44,200 who wanted to become an engineer at NASA. 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,540 She wanted to take the classes, 17 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:46,860 they wouldn't let her in the school, 18 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:47,830 it was for whites only. 19 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:50,050 She fought to get a place in the class, 20 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,260 got her certification, 21 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:54,570 and became the first black woman engineer at NASA. 22 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:57,720 And just the perseverance she had to show, 23 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,070 she knew she belonged. 24 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:01,010 She knew that they needed her help 25 00:01:01,010 --> 00:01:03,000 to help get the first humans into space. 26 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,578 And she persevered, amazing. 27 00:01:04,578 --> 00:01:09,070 - Today we want to talk about women in astronomy, 28 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:11,240 and who are the names that come to mind, 29 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,660 when you think about women in astronomy, 30 00:01:13,660 --> 00:01:15,150 kind of in a context of Women's History Month? 31 00:01:15,150 --> 00:01:16,730 - You know, what I love 32 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:18,813 is that the history of women in astronomy 33 00:01:18,813 --> 00:01:20,860 goes back very very far. 34 00:01:20,860 --> 00:01:22,100 Women have always been there. 35 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:24,335 They've always been making contributions. 36 00:01:24,335 --> 00:01:25,490 Many people have heard 37 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:27,480 of the famous astronomer William Herschel, 38 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,800 but his sister, Caroline, 39 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,803 actually used his telescopes 40 00:01:29,803 --> 00:01:32,820 and discovered a number of comets. 41 00:01:32,820 --> 00:01:34,260 There's a woman I particularly admire 42 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:35,920 named Phoebe Waterman Haas. 43 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,310 She was one of the first women 44 00:01:37,310 --> 00:01:39,250 to operate the Lick Telescope. 45 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:41,160 Women like Henrietta Leavitt, 46 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,710 who worked up at the Harvard Observatory, 47 00:01:43,710 --> 00:01:45,610 and invented a way that we actually learned 48 00:01:45,610 --> 00:01:48,740 how to measure the distance to other galaxies. 49 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:51,574 So women were there, making fundamental discoveries, 50 00:01:51,574 --> 00:01:53,910 helping the science move along, 51 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:56,745 but we don't know their stories as well as we should. 52 00:01:56,745 --> 00:01:58,840 - One of my favorite women 53 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,930 who have really made history in astronomy 54 00:02:01,930 --> 00:02:04,760 is Dr. Nancy Grace Roman. 55 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,460 - What amazed me about her is she had this opportunity 56 00:02:08,460 --> 00:02:11,130 to create an entire NASA science program, 57 00:02:11,130 --> 00:02:12,640 saying if you were going to lay out 58 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:14,020 this astrophysics program, 59 00:02:14,020 --> 00:02:16,063 it's got to have a strong research component, 60 00:02:16,063 --> 00:02:17,950 people doing the basic understanding 61 00:02:17,950 --> 00:02:20,244 of how do stars form, how to galaxies evolve, 62 00:02:20,244 --> 00:02:23,030 how do we develop instrumentation 63 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:25,240 and keep making better and better instruments 64 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,970 to measure stars and galaxies. 65 00:02:27,970 --> 00:02:30,830 And then she also, of course, that critical piece for NASA 66 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:32,800 helped really push the development 67 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,230 of satellite after satellite after satellite. 68 00:02:36,230 --> 00:02:38,470 - And in fact, there's a number of people who have told me 69 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:41,560 that it's hard to imagine Hubble being in space 70 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,100 if it wasn't for Nancy Grace Roman. 71 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:45,761 And many people therefore refer to her 72 00:02:45,761 --> 00:02:47,751 as the mother of Hubble. 73 00:02:47,751 --> 00:02:51,610 And so I'm so excited, because right after that, 74 00:02:51,610 --> 00:02:53,760 we're going to launch later this year 75 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,920 the next big telescope has now her name on it, 76 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:00,190 Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope. 77 00:03:00,190 --> 00:03:01,756 - So it's really going to be able to give us 78 00:03:01,756 --> 00:03:06,280 a comprehensive high resolution picture, if you will, 79 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,530 of the universe, in the infrared, 80 00:03:08,530 --> 00:03:10,580 really helping us understand the structure 81 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:13,950 and origin of galaxies, really getting at a lot 82 00:03:13,950 --> 00:03:16,020 of the forces in the history of the universe, 83 00:03:16,020 --> 00:03:17,099 as we try to understand 84 00:03:17,099 --> 00:03:19,140 what is the structure of the universe? 85 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:20,340 What does it tell us? 86 00:03:20,340 --> 00:03:22,360 How can we learn the origins of the universe? 87 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,800 How it evolves over time? 88 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,970 What I really love is this idea 89 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:27,970 that when we had the Hubble Space Telescope, 90 00:03:27,970 --> 00:03:30,620 which Nancy Grace Roman pioneered, 91 00:03:30,620 --> 00:03:33,500 it caused us to rewrite astronomy textbooks. 92 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:35,200 The James Webb Space Telescope 93 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,510 is going to take us to the next level, 94 00:03:37,510 --> 00:03:40,619 but then the Nancy Grace Roman Telescope will again, 95 00:03:40,619 --> 00:03:44,320 really fundamentally change and expand our understanding 96 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,670 of the universe. 97 00:03:45,670 --> 00:03:48,790 - And I know from just the last years of her life, 98 00:03:48,790 --> 00:03:51,490 she was excited about dark energy, which of course, 99 00:03:51,490 --> 00:03:53,940 relates to the largest scale structure of the universe 100 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:57,060 that requires the type of measurements 101 00:03:57,060 --> 00:03:58,490 and large field of view, 102 00:03:58,490 --> 00:04:01,420 a hundred times the field of view of Hubble, 103 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:02,980 that this telescope was enabled. 104 00:04:02,980 --> 00:04:05,885 So it couldn't be more excited to have her name 105 00:04:05,885 --> 00:04:08,640 on this next generation telescope, 106 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,850 and have her legacy celebrated in the heavens 107 00:04:12,850 --> 00:04:14,730 with all the thousands of scientists 108 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:16,328 who are waiting for those data. 109 00:04:16,328 --> 00:04:17,860 - Thanks to NASA 110 00:04:17,860 --> 00:04:20,360 for naming this building after Mary W. Jackson. 111 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,950 And of course, thanks to all these women 112 00:04:21,950 --> 00:04:23,811 that we're celebrating, these scientists and engineers 113 00:04:23,811 --> 00:04:26,650 who helped us move the sciences forward. 114 00:04:26,650 --> 00:04:30,590 And thank you for joining us for another episode